they'll have to pay back, you know, penalties, taxes, learn english, get in the back of the line and work their way through it, and i think that the public overwhelmingly supports that notion. >> do you have any concerns about the way the obama team inside the white house, the cabinet is shaping up so far in the top positions we've seen white men. we've seen a lack of diversity, critics say. there is that iconic picture, we're told, valerie jarrett is separate there behind dan pfiffer, but not really visible. she is a powerful voice. there's no denying that. the most powerful voice probably in the white house. what about lisa jackson that's left, vpa. you're leaving labor. when are we going to see more women? >> i think that you are going to see more women and more diversity, you will see that coming about. i know that i have been in discussions and people have told me that there is a strong commitment to make sure that latinos, hispanics are represented in the cabinet post as well as women, so i think right now we're a little bit too quick to judge, and right now is a time for all t